Nice young men do not have group sex with a woman that was clearly troubled -- but let us say they couldn't figure out that agreeing to go off with them, a group of men was a sign she was troubled; nice guys just don't take a woman to a bathroom stall and take turns having sex with her, film her and themselves as if she is an unpaid porno star in a their porno flick. They accuse her of smearing them but their own vile and exploitive behavior was enough to smear themselves.
These guys and the newspaper -- in this case The New York Post wins the "misogyny prize" (as usual) and the editors and author are catering to their notion that they are nice guys are sickening. The front cover of the new york post with 2 guys pictures is just gross. These guys were part of a group that exploit a woman and the situation by video taping it and they do not understand what they did wrong clearly from their pose and in dressed in fine suits and ties doesn't absolve them of being predators, preying on a clearly troubled woman.
No parent would want their daughter to date a guy that takes a woman with a group of their friends to a bathroom stall at a college university and use her and film her.
The fact she accused them of rape is sick and shows she has emotional problems and needs counseling. She hurt her self esteem, her "self" agreeing to go along with them, her family and boyfriend and women that are raped and find the courage to come forward and speak up and deal with the legal system and media that is patriarchal based and often misogynist. In America and globally women are blamed for being raped by both men and "fellow" women which is wrong.
These guys did experience the horror of being accused of something they did not do which was rape but when I see their faces I am disgusted because they are not nice guys. These showed no humanity or an ounce of decency. They exploited her and used her. Filmed her as if it was a "trophy" like a deer hunter with his prey posing for a photo or like an unpaid porn star that did not fully understand she had just been recruited. The gang used her and exploited her. Even if one stood there in silence rather than reach out and stop it or get help, he is also guilty of not being a nice guy as well. This was like a train wreck that could have been prevented if there was one "decent" guy, if there had been truly
one nice guy in the "gang" or group that nows poses in nice suits and ties for the press.
A nice guy would say, hey, no guys, leave her alone. I was glad to hear one of these guys girlfriends was angry with him. That is a small sign of someone understanding they were wrong where in "misogyny world" it seems most are quick to forgive them but truly of those that do -- would you want them to date your sister, your daughter. Would you invite them to a party at your house although you are quick to absolve them and blame a woman who was clearly troubled? A neighbor says she is intelligent, quiet, well behaved so it sounds like something in her just snapped and she herself could not reconcile what she did.
A nice guy would say, hey, no guys, leave her alone. I was glad to hear one of these guys girlfriends was angry with him. That is a small sign of someone understanding they were wrong where in "misogyny world" it seems most are quick to forgive them but truly of those that do -- would you want them to date your sister, your daughter. Would you invite them to a party at your house although you are quick to absolve them and blame a woman who was clearly troubled? A neighbor says she is intelligent, quiet, well behaved so it sounds like something in her just snapped and she herself could not reconcile what she did.
These "supposed nice guys" posing for the media are innocent of rape but they are not nice guys and what they did was wrong. The college campus can't be proud of what goes on in their bathroom stalls or maybe they just don't care. Even with her consent she was exploited by a "group" of men that even likened it to porno.
If a woman is troubled and clearly has problems is it okay to go to Hofstra University and gang exploit her and film her?
That is not the education college kids are there for.
If a woman is troubled and clearly has problems is it okay to go to Hofstra University and gang exploit her and film her?
That is not the education college kids are there for.
People have to consent -- not a superficial yes, or a yes influenced by drugs or booze or both, but the deeper yes -- I am fine with this. I can get up tomorrow, look in the mirror and be happy with what I see and feel good about my choices and that was not the case.
Asking are you sure you want to do this -- is probably an indication that you know it is not a good idea..These guys took advantage and are saying they are good guys, yeah right. Thank goodness one neighbor spoke up for her and she she is good. A good student, quiet, well behaved. I believe she snapped. She did something that had to hurt her self esteem big time for many reasons and she went along with it which is almost as sad as it is wrong to accuse these guys of rape. They did not rape her but they lack decency and humanity as they greedily took and filmed what they wanted.
I tried to post the comment below on the NYPost website but they have filters and they filters may not let you use the word "rape" so I rewrote it several times and until I removed the word rape -- only than could I post a comment.
Being accused of rape is wrong and this young woman is clearly troubled and hurt her loved ones and other women that come forward when they have been raped which takes courage especially in a misogynist world we live in. These guys want to portray themselves as nice but they are anything but. A nice young man would say something seems wrong here. Do not take advantage of her. Filming her like she was an unpaid porno star seemed like a trophy. Does Hostra condone gangs of men visiting the campus and taking a clearly troubled woman in a stall, taking turns using her and filming it. No parent would welcome these predators who exploited a troubled woman in their homes or welcome them dating their daughters. They did not rape her but what they did was gross because they exploited her and used her. They did not rape her but they did use her and filmed her. Their own behavior smeared them for life.
